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if you're not a myth, whose reality are you?

...while we figure out the other stuff... 🤍

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| L | | H | | M |

Holy glitches that won't stop, mang!
As soon as I saw your test uploads, I knew exactly what they were about.
You'll be pleased to know I enjoyed your show glitch-free today on Mixcloud... only because I have a good hypothesis on the source of the problem...
Obviously, I was mortified last week when I kept hearing unwanted "artifacts" in FD71...
...launched into investigation mode...
...confirmed source file was good...tried browser other than Chrome on my work laptop (Edge) --> nogo...tried browser on my phone (Opera) --> MC audio good! ...back to the work laptop, confirmed bandcamp audio was good, as well as hearthis and soundcloud... issue is isolated to only Mixcloud streaming...
...on home laptop, had listened to some MC early last week (didn't notice any audio problems)...allowed scheduled Windows updates to install...then, the night after noticing the work LT had audio issues, I tried MC again on the home LT and snap, crackle, and pop invaded my ears!
2 + 2 = a correlation to a "Microsoft Corporation AudioProcessingObject Driver Update" which only affects Mixcloud streaming. Since there are no Windows updates on my Android phone, MC streaming still sounds fine.
...So, it's just a matter of time for Mixcloud to update some old driver of theirs to one that will play nice with the new Windows drivers. Myth or reality? Who knows?!
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btw, the rain did come for me today... even knocked out power at this someones house for an hour. All is good now. Hope you are well too, P (despite all the technical frustrations).
Cheers! -A
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papamango

"Myth or reality? Who knows?!" ...ha ha ha, love it.

dude, I really appreciate that treatise on the complexities and I like your logic too (you could be on the money there - or, at least, it's convinced me!).
I need to have a listen again to this mix here and see whether the small pops & stutters are still there or not (...a couple of peeps have said it played fine for them). so lets see!

but in the meantime (and more importantly) all spare digits & appendages are crossed here that the weather stays on the right side of not too troublesome for you there Al.
P🥭🤞🤞🤞...

papamango

PS - I didn't notice any issues with FD71 at all... whether that's helpful or not 🤔

| L | | H | | M |

@papamango .
I'm happy to report, from my work computer this morning, the krakle is GONE! Mixcloud must've gotten their update and their drivers are now in sync with ours (at least mine, anyway). Standing down red alert.
Btw, I've been using a 1 year old show that easily exposed the "artifacts" during its first few minutes, "La Divina Commedia" by The Kraken.
I believe it is now safe to listen to FD71 when you have the time : )
...And thanks, P, for digesting all my techno-bable, hahaha!
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papamango

@lightninghockeymusic_basic excellent!
ha ha... the Krakle... 'techno-bable'... (and the "La Divina Commedia" by The Kraken was a superb session as I recall...).

and sorry - I haven't listened to FD71 at all yet; blame my aging grey matter... added to queue now though - and good timing as I'm on the road from tomorrow for a couple days (oft the best time to listen-listen)... P✊🙏

| L | | H | | M |

@papamango .
Oh man, road trip listening is the highest honor you could bestow upon me! Especially if multiple pairs of ears are involved (if not, it's still super cool).
Safe journey, P!
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zvonimirmarković

It's all a matter of perspective 👻🎼 28:11 🌟 33:15 🎹 54:40 ✅ thank you papamango 🥭

papamango

lovely choice of numbers Zvonimir and thank you - let me figure out when was what and I can tell you what was when... P😂🙏

JP aka Wolfman Jack

@papamango 😂😂😂😂😂😂

papamango
papamango

finally figured it out:
28:11 - Subjoi - Stand Up (2017)
33:15 - Zepherin Saint - Blue Moon (2022)
54:40 - Greater Manchester Housing Authority - SILVER LINING (2018)
🙏🥳

papamango

@theshinybeast cheers! just to know I’m not alone is a good thing 🙂. and I feel your pain too…

I did a little research earlier and mixcloud HQ uploads are around 160kbps (which means compression in any event) using a transcoder and HQ also adds post process ‘enhancements’ to try to boost & make the quality appear better.

I’ve not seen any problems like this upload here has before and I’m wondering whether they might have changed transcoder and/or the enhancement elements (which could produce weirdness potentially - boosting the wrong things here and there for instance).

I don’t mind a drop in sound quality (for streamed content it’s to be expected) but it’s frustrating because you don’t want to share something that plays back worse than your original because of added glitch of one kind or another (plus, for me, getting back up and running after a laptop death in March, I had to check a load of other things to make sure it wasn’t to do with my new setup). I also reuploaded my .wav to check it wasn’t simply a one-off and then also converted to m4a at 320kbps and uploaded that - both had similar problems.

the soundcloud upload I did earlier is the proof in the pudding here - slight drop in fidelity (no problem) but no ‘bonus’ glitch added.

if the puzzle here was free of cost I wouldn’t be at all bothered🧩. makes me laugh that my low quality upload last month plays back better than a high quality one 😅…

first world problems…🫢

The Kitchen Sink

Definitely first world, but when you're spending a lot of time trying to create something it can't help but be frustrating:) I'm wondering if it would be better to upload mp3 rather than WAV, although I seem to recall having the same problem uploading shows in mp3 format.......

papamango

@theshinybeast I do fully agree S.

I usually upload wavs.
I searched up yesterday and read that some people recently think m4a (at 320kbps) works most 'sympathetically' with the transcoder and HQ enhancements, but I honestly didn't notice much improvement when I tried that.
I've converted to mp3 in the past a couple of times and then uploaded, but I think all you achieve is some elected compression before the upload then sees some further compression (...maybe).
to be honest, I'm not quite savvy enough to be certain on any of this either!🤣
good luck with your trials & tribulations - I'm going to see what happens on my next upload... P🖖

papamango

artist - title
----------------
Nicolas Jaar - Mi Mujer (2010)
Dean Grenier, Pilo - Take Form (2010)
Greater Manchester Housing Authority - GROOVE THAT WONT STOP (2019)
Jeals - Wooolan (2017)
Charles Petersohn - Myth Versus Reality (2025)
Howard Wilson - Keep Away (2012)
Subjoi - Stand Up (2017)
Zepherin Saint - Blue Moon (2022)
Charlie Soul Clap - Virgo's Victory (2021)
Pascal Viscardi - La Ragazza Del Lago (2017)
Lone - Vapour Trail (2016)
Seti - What Is It You Want (2020)
Greater Manchester Housing Authority - SILVER LINING (2018)
Lost Twin - Nothing (2014)

rapid fermentation x medium rotation 🥭

papamango

@papamango hmmmm🤔...
so I listened to my actual recorded wav file.
it plays back nicely enough with zero glitches, stutters or pops - which is good news and because I'm still proofing my "reincarnated" system, reconstituted library & set-up and really would prefer to avoid any unexpected Rubik's cubes 🤪

which means something is happening at the upload stage or after that...
this is my first upload since last month (which was fine).
I uploaded this mix again just now ("test upload - nothing to see here") - seems maybe to have less issues but does have issues all the same (and in different places).

happy enough chatting with myself here, but anyone else noticed any issues recently?

papamango

@papamango alternatively, listen here:
https://soundcloud.com/papamango/5834a1
zero glitches.
as our second kid used to say when they were small (which is quite a while back😂): "weerly noying dada!!"...

The Kitchen Sink

@papamango You aren't alone, P. I spent a couple of hours editing my latest using audacity, and making sure the tracks from old Cds were the same volume as from more recent ones, only to find that after uploading their volume is once again lower:( Really frustrating. I checked the saved file before uploading and everything was fine. I had thought the problem was caused when normalising after editing, so only normalised immediately after uploading the file to audacity, not at the end, but something happens when uploading to mixcloud (which also took several minutes, possibly because I have an old laptop?). I'm not technical so need everything to run smoothly or I'm left frustrated that what I'm sharing isn't the quality I would like......

Citizens of Sound

The fruit father is back, and on fine form! 🔊💥🔥

papamango

Ha!!! “fruit father” - that gets me every time! 🥭😄😅🖖

JP aka Wolfman Jack

Absolutely fantastic show Papa. Loved every moment of it and happy to report it played perfectly with no glitches. I know that platform had serious playback issues over the past week or so. I know many who received confirmation from Mixcloud support that there was technical issues with playback and that their engineers were working on it. Looks like they may have sorted it out !!! Let's keep our fingers crossed !!! Sending hugs and much love from us all here as we wish you a lovely week ahead xoxoxoxoxoxo❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

papamango

so grateful for that and the kind & thoughtful words JP. pleased it played OK for you and good to know I have company because others have been getting equally bamboozled lately... hugs & love back at ya and the very Best of Wishes as always, papa🥭🙏🤍

JP aka Wolfman Jack

@papamango ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

Raw

Great set Papa, and a perfect accompaniment to my evening it must be said. No listening issues from my side for what it's worth, but then again I've always been lucky ;-) Hope all is well there mate :-)

papamango

mate, you stay up almost as late as I do! 🤣 cheers for the listening and thanks for the words; yes the sound problem is a weird one... not solved (or fully understood) here quite yet. hope everything is decent and you're in good condition there too, P🙏🖖

J. Walter Cornejo | WaltyMix

ヾ(◠‿◠)ノ♪ 𝄞₊⊹ 🙋🏽‍♂️

papamango

🥭🙏 🍷🎉✊

attila

a nightime journey where the groove is like a train that goes through different spaces and shades without ever stopping! Brilliant flow with a truly elegant closing. Top notch papamango!

papamango

glad you jumped on for the ride attila! very astute of you too; this _was_ a late night jam (couple glasses of wine and then see where the track/s led me…). P🍷🙏🖖

Rabid_Acid_Badger

love the guitar on this track :)

papamango

that must be Virgo's Victory by Charlie Soul Clap... (maybe).😋🙏