Kodi is black, gay, single and living in the big city.

Ruby is white, straight, married and living in the sticks.

Together, they are The Swirl Podcast.

Discussing everything from diversity to donuts, Kodi and Ruby bring their loud mouths and different perspectives to the table each week. No topic is off limits.

Between Kodi’s dramatic weight loss and mission to inspire others and Ruby’s yoga teacher training, both “fat kids at heart” are constantly on the look out for better ways to balance their lives, their responsibilities and passions while also discussing Beyoncé, cake and how to be more empathetic.

We’re on a mission to find our best selves.