Not a Real Job is a better kind of marketing podcast. It’s actually fun. And funny. And useful. Hosts Chris Van Patten and Joel Kelly answer your questions and share their wisdom on all things digital marketing, small business, writing, productivity, social media, and more. Plus, there are plenty of good drinks and bad jokes. Always hilarious, often insightful, Not a Real Job is your new favorite podcast, and the best thing to happen to your business’s online marketing.