As punks, we would love disco, because you weren't supposed to. As a real punk, you were always contrary. I don't want to dump on [laughs] those cats, cuz they feel very passionate about their scene, but punk, you gotta be contrary. If you've fallen into a part-time punk, then that's not punk. Punk's a state of mind, like disco. They're actually very closely linked, just as an expression of freedom, through the dance and dressing up.