Barry de Bruin is one of the partners of Rotterdam based graphic design studio ping-pong. According to this selfmade man the world will explode if he doesn’t skip every other step of this one specific ‘stairs of doom’. Since Barry likes to cook we ask him what’s his best dish. He also talks about the current leaving of some employees and how that is new for him. You know it’s gonna happen but knowing and realizing is a different thing, he explains. We ask him what projects he likes working on the most. The view of playing ping pong by yourself (which is no fun), is also reflected in their business. They like to work together as a team with their clients and bounce ideas around. And last but not least about his two heroes. Recorded at the European Design Awards 2010 in Rotterdam.