This is the second time we meet Martin Tiefenthaler, who runs his own studio, teaches ‘typography and semiotics’ in Vienna and is the co-founder of the Typografische Gesellschaft Austria (TGA). Six years ago he just set up an educational system regarding typography, now he shares the results of this first harvest with us. We ask him why he thinks he’s a good teacher, but a bad designer. He tells us how he was always into type, while he thought he was into art and how a book totally changed his life. At the end of this interview he leaves us with an untold story about his statement that typography is actually a political issue. We should start planning a third interview with him soon. Recorded at Tÿpo St.Gallen 2011, Swiss.