Rarely on These Things Matter do we get to hear a guest's entire life story, but on today's episode with comedian and podcaster Zac Maas, We hear that and more! How does a smart-ass white kid from South Dakota start spitting science? Aesop Rock is your answer. Him and Atmosphere, El-P, RJD2, Blackalicious, The Coup, Mos Def, MF Doom, etc, etc, etc. The more poetic side of hip hop. The more thoughtful and political side. That's what we're chatting about today.