The state of the vegan movement is ... In today's episode, Matt and I depart from our typical health and nutrition banter to discuss where veganism is right now as a movement. We don't come from a place of authority, but share our thoughts as two dudes in the middle of it. We rave about how things are getting easier, and challenge each other on how we can do better. And I make some terrible analogy about kale, so there's that too.