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My guest today, on the Steve Jobs inspired Join Up Dots free podcast interview is a man who rise to the top has been nothing short of remarkable. He went from a full-time insurance agent 4 years ago to building an e-commerce business that sold $20 million of physical products in 2016. What is astonishing is he did this WITHOUT using Amazon, eBay, or Shopify, and with nothing more than simple two-page ClickFunnels websites that use carefully optimized sales funnels. If you think that entrepreneurs are born more than made you could well be right. Our guest got his start in entrepreneurship with a pool cleaning business at 16, and has done everything from selling tea, to selling hundreds of thousands of dollars of t-shirts on Teespring, and to now selling 10,000 units per month across 20 different physical product lines. Today, he has built up an email list of 1.1 million subscribers and 300,000 buyers, and is selling the largest volume out of 50,000 ClickFunnels users. In addition to his

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