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David Holmgren on his essay 'Crash on Demand'

David Holmgren on his essay 'Crash on Demand'

Playing tracks by

Little Milton, Maceo & the Macs, The Fatback Band, Bobby Byrd, Russ Henderson and more.

Interviewing my old friend & teacher, co-originator of the Permaculture concept David Holmgren. We'll be talking about his latest controversial essay 'Crash on Demand: Welcome to the Brown Tech future' - which builds on his 'Future Scenarios' book published in 2007.

"David argues that if 10% of people from the global middle class reduce consumption by 50% and convert 50% of their assets to building household and local community resilience, then the fragile global economic system could crash sooner rather than later. Frightening as this seems, the longer massive economic contraction is delayed the more likely the affects of runaway climate change will eventuate".

Here's a link to his essay

What's it all about? Crash the system? Tune in and find out.

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Michael Lowe

Audacity is a really great open source audio recording and editing software, try it out for post interview editing. 😉

Michael Lowe

Great pod cast! David always has some interesting things to say. Any way you can sort the music volume out? Firstly very loud! And sounds like it's coming out of a tin can? Great tunes though!

Simon Greenwood

Very interesting; lots of carefully considered comments.

Christopher Kecun

Consider Miro ( and Ubuntu One as alternative options to iPlayer. I know Open source and free content dose not make sense to everyone but some things need to be shared openly and without restriction.

TommY BoY
TommY BoY

Great Interview & music - is it possible to download this show as an mp3? if so how can i do this?

21st Century Permaculture

No its not - sorry, not unless you have a program that'll do it for you. I'm in the process of putting it all on iTunes as podcasts - so will post here when that's complete

Betty Ann Trought

Any way to skip music when involved with what is being said.

21st Century Permaculture

Hey Betty, you can move the cursor along the bar at the bottom, but its a bit hit and miss.

Gary Finch

Nice interview Stefan - god to hear david confirming that the message I largely the same as the one articulated in his essay on energy - when the work is done can you get him back on air to talk about 'retro-fitting the suburbs' - great music

PJ Chmiel
PJ Chmiel

Very good interview, thank you for posting. My only comment is that the musical interludes (while very nice songs) are a bit jarring in that they start rather suddenly and seem to be at a higher volume than the interview audio. Always great to hear David speak, and I love the discussions that have been generated from this new essay.

21st Century Permaculture

Thanks for the feedback PJ - it was the first interview I'd done on Skype, which made mixing that much more complicated - I'm trying to figure out the levels etc for the next show.